Mur's Wall of Whine

[Egg]

If economic equality is the goal we need look no further than the Marxist core principle. "From each in accord with ability and to each according to need" has never been convincingly challenged in good faith. The enemy of equality is profit and profit is the soul of capitalism. We know in our hearts that this is true and ethical. That premise is the seed of Anarchism that languishes like an unwelcome guest at the quick of Marxist analysis. To ignore it is to wallow in mal foie, the existential denial of truth. Both Lenin and Marx identified this denial as the contradiction upon which capitalist theory is woven- and as in all self contradictory principles- the poison that will eventually kill the beast.

General Striker

Any system set up on greed and which purports that greed is the soul every human has constructed a self fulfilling prophesy. We are not at all free - by that, I mean - our minds and hearts have all been indoctrinated. Every one of us is herded and pushed into belief systems every day. Just seeing certain memes play out in front of you daily will change your way of looking and thinking.

Capitalism is a false god.

Most tribal societies followed Marxist principles - and, that is how humanity was able to go from running from beasts to herding beasts. Community was our greatest strength.

[lkwalker]

Marxist analysis is not ignored, This is the facts, my man. When someone cries outrage, they're called a whiner. When someone offers a better way, they're called a dreamer.

So, what you do is look at the bogus system and at least find a better way to function within its confines.

Take money out of the military.

But, that actually makes you a whining dreaming hippy, I suppose.

That is reform, not revolution.

[Egg]

Marxist analysis is not ignored, This is the facts, my man. When someone cries outrage, they're called a whiner. When someone offers a better way, they're called a dreamer.

So, what you do is look at the bogus system and at least find a better way to function within its confines.

Take money out of the military.

But, that actually makes you a whining dreaming hippy, I suppose.

That is reform, not revolution.

Well, when I cry revolution, I find many ignore "revolution" and hear only the cry. We do what we can.

[lkwalker]

Any system set up on greed and which purports that greed is the soul every human has constructed a self fulfilling prophesy.

Greed is not the problem- the problem is petty greed. True greed demands the right to everything. We have a sovereign right to demand it all. It is property that stands in the way of freedom.

[lkwalker]

I don't expect you to understand that. Study Syndicalism and you may come to understand what the world is up against.

[Egg]

I've read up on syndacilsm and even started a thread on it at amkon. You posted on it. I was called a dreamer and a whiner. I know what the world is up against - people.

[Mur]

Why is Marxist analysis ignored here?

Because it failed?

[Egg]

Why is Marxist analysis ignored here?

Because it failed?

True Marxism was never given a chance. Listen, both Marxism and Laisseze Faire capitalism are failures.

[Mur]

Of course the Federal Reserve system has failed as well

The following are 27 depressing statistics about the U.S. economy that are almost too crazy to believe....

#1 The Obama administration projects that the federal budget deficit will be approximately $1,600,000,000,000 this year. Right now the Republicans and the Democrats are fighting tooth and nail over budget cuts. The Republicans are proposing to cut the budget deficit by 3.8%. The Democrats only want to cut it by 2.1%.

#2 The U.S. economy actually grew more between 1930 and 1940 than it did during the decade that recently ended.

#3 Over the last decade, the number of Americans without health insurance has risen from about 38 million to about 52 million.

#4 Agricultural commodities are absolutely soaring. The price of corn has more than doubled over the last 12 months. Considering the fact that corn is in literally thousands of our food products, that is a very frightening statistic.

#5 Between 1999 and 2009, real median household income in the United States declined by 5.0%.

#6 It is being estimated that total U.S. government debt will grow by 42 percent by the year 2015.

#7 According to the Pentagon, the cost of the first week of attacks on Libya was 600 million dollars.
#8 The average American now spends approximately 23 percent of his or her income on food and gas.

#9 According to the U.S. Energy Department, the average U.S. household will spend approximately $700 more on gasoline in 2011 than it did during 2010.

#10 It is being projected that for the first time ever, the OPEC nations are going to bring in over a trillion dollars from exporting oil this year. Their biggest customer is the United States.

#11 According to the Economic Policy Institute, almost 25 percent of U.S. households now have zero net worth or negative net worth. Back in 2007, that number was just 18.6 percent.

#12 China produced 19.8 percent of all the goods consumed in the world last year. The United States only produced 19.4 percent.

#13 The United States has lost an average of 50,000 manufacturing jobs per month since China joined the World Trade Organization in 2001.

#14 The U.S. trade deficit with China in 2010 was 27 times larger than it was back in 1990.

#15 U.S. home values have fallen an astounding 6.3 trillion dollars since the peak of the real estate market in 2005.

#16 According to RealtyTrac, one out of every 45 U.S. households was hit with a foreclosure filing in 2010.

#17 The number of homes that were actually repossessed reached the 1 million mark for the first time ever during 2010.

#18 New home sales in the United States set a brand new all-time record low in the month of February.

#19 Now home sales in the United States are now down 80% from the peak in July 2005.

#20 The financial condition of American families continues to deteriorate rapidly. In 2010, one out of every eight American families had at least one family member that was unemployed. That number was the highest it has been since the U.S. Labor Department began keeping track of that statistic back in 1994.

#21 There are now more than 6 million Americans that the government says have given up looking for work completely.
#22 According to the U.S. Bureau of Labor Statistics, the average length of unemployment in the U.S. is now an all-time record 39 weeks.

#23 Americans now owe more than $900 billion on student loans, which is also an all-time record high.

#24 Average household debt in the United States has now reached a level of 136% of average household income.

#25 According to the Federal Reserve, between 2007 and 2009 median household net worth in the United States fell by 23 percent.

#26 The Federal Reserve also says that median household debt in the United States has risen to $75,600.

#27 According to a recent article posted on the website of the American Institute of Economic Research, the purchasing power of a U.S. dollar declined from $1.00 in 1913 to 4.6 cents in 2009. Sadly, the Federal Reserve is working very hard to get rid of the little bit of purchasing power that the U.S. dollar has left.

http://www.zerohedge.com/article/feelin ... even-worse

[Egg]

Agreed. The Federal Reserve was a scam from day one. There was never any good faith involved with the people who knew what it was about and wanted it implemented.

It is one of the greatest cons in human history. I think it outdoes Religion as I think some people truly believe in their religion.