Air canada 759 July 2017 taxiway

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Re: Air canada 759 July 2017

Post by Royal » Thu Jul 20, 2017 10:24 pm

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Re: Air canada 759 July 2017

Post by Pigeon » Mon Aug 07, 2017 3:18 pm

59 feet

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Re: Air canada 759 July 2017

Post by Pigeon » Thu Aug 10, 2017 2:21 am

By the time the ATC controller issued the “Go Around” command the plane was already climbing. The pilots applied thrust after passing over UA 1, the first 787, around 85 feet above the taxiway. Roughly 2.5 seconds later the plane began to climb, having reached a minimum altitude of 59 feet over the taxiway, positioned between the A340 and the second 787 lined up for departure. The top of the A340 tail sits 59 feet above the ground; the 787 is about 3.5 feet shorter.

http://blog.wandr.me/2017/08/ac759-faa- ... -incident/


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Re: Air canada 759 July 2017

Post by Royal » Wed Aug 16, 2017 6:29 pm

Negligence by SFO.
I landed on runway 28R two nights ago, right about at dusk. Runway lighting and taxiway lighting are very different, and this, among other things, should have been a huge clue For Air Canada. They should have broken off the approach a lot sooner. But as we descended toward the threshold, I couldn’t help thinking: taxiway C does indeed resemble a runway!
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They should not have gotten as close as they did, but it can be very difficult to see other aircraft on the ground at night, even when those aircraft have all of their appropriate lighting on. Just ask the USAir crew than ;landed on top of that plane at LAX.


http://www.businessinsider.com/pilot-ex ... ter-2017-8
According to initial interviews with the flight crew, both pilots appear to have been confused by the absence of lighting on Runway 28L, which had been closed for construction. Its lights were turned off at the time of the incident, and a 20.5-foot wide flashing X had been placed near the threshold. The Air Canada pilots reporting believing that Runway 28R was actually 28L and they therefore believed that Taxiway C was Runway 28R.
https://www.avweb.com/avwebflash/news/A ... 456-1.html

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Re: Air canada 759 July 2017

Post by Pigeon » Wed Aug 16, 2017 10:53 pm

Given the layout of the airfield, that big X should have made it clear that the left runway was closed.

Difficult to see aircraft lights? That is why they asked about aircraft on the runway and went around.

They figured it out but almost to late.

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Re: Air canada 759 July 2017 taxiway

Post by Pigeon » Fri Jul 15, 2022 9:58 pm



Recommendations after this incident.

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