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UFOLOGY 101

Post by lkwalker » Wed Apr 06, 2011 12:39 pm

Originally Posted by boycotteverything
What is the observable universe? What can we know and how can we know it?

In terms of rejecting any observations our point of departure is never anything more than the primordial Solipsist entrapment. The logical extension of such an admission of pure subjectivity is not simply doubt but the necessary rejection of all independent observation per se. All of it. I suppose that's ground zero for an ideological rational skeptic but it's also a sort of intellectual nihilism. Once one takes the initial leap of faith beyond our sensory prison every actual occasion becomes the subject of consideration. To then reject any given set of observations as false is based in categorical presupposition. And, of course, all observers have their own. Some apparently observed occasions are objectively true and others false. Which are which is a matter of filtered judgment. A truly reasonable person brackets his own prejudicial inclinations in deference to an open mind.

Epistemology 101™ courtesy of the Cartoon Syndicate.
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Re: UFOLOGY 101

Post by lkwalker » Wed Apr 06, 2011 1:50 pm

The advent of the Borg
The advent of the Borg

Postby boycotteverything » Thu Jan 27, 2011 12:47 pm
How exactly do/will they control us?

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That we don't know. Nor can we answer the larger question of 'why?' For many years I was on the side of the 'explorer' hypothesis. I figured it was a scientific endeavor- that we were being studied just as we study penguins and lizards. What changed my mind was the testimony of experiencers beginning with the Hills. The deeper I looked- considering the work of Jacobs and Hopkins and Mack- and the further manipulation of Ufology by a strange assortment of intelligence agents (operating in ways not dissimilar to the methods of the silent invaders- who do they serve?) the more I became convinced that this phenomenon was not only real- but immediate. I have come to an understanding that the US Government has studied this problem in depth for the last 63 years and that those who are most responsible for the study have been compromised and co-opted by the very subject of their study. There is a Majestic 12 and there is ongoing contact. And that circumstance, above all else, should worry us. Immersion in the study of Ufology should not be taken lightly nor by the faint of heart.


From an interview with David Jacobs On "The Threat"

http://aliensandchildren.org/InterviewwithProf.htm


Is this what the government knows? Is this the real core story? I think David nails it. He hasn't written on the subject in over 10 years even though his research continues. Is that because he's concluded that there's nothing that can be done about this silent invasion? Yes, and the very thought both stuns him and depresses him. The Earth is slowly and inexorably being incorporated into a Borg. This the reason that any Disclosure will take on a religious and eschatological quality despite the efforts of Exo-polity. The phenomenon can not be controlled and resistance, or even deflection, will ultimately prove to be futile. Don't want to face it? Who can blame you? Maybe it's best to live out these last years immersed in the illusion of freedom laughing at the prospect of incorporation into a malevolent and highly strange new paradigm. "Oh there's nothing to it. Oh it's all just bullshit." Let that denial serve you well. 'Denial Macht Frei,' will serve as a fitting epitaph for the sound and fury show. C'est la vie.
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Re: UFOLOGY 101

Post by lkwalker » Wed Apr 06, 2011 2:00 pm

Points of departure



BE's PRINCIPLES of EPISTEMOLOGY 101


A. An open mind unrestrained by skepticism is credulity
B. Skepticism with a closed mind is debunkery
C. Consider everything/ believe nothing
D. Smoke em if ya got em



I'm advocating for treating Ufology as a philosophical issue much in the manner of Jung and Vallee. That there's a phenomenological aspect to the enquiry is only denied at our peril. It speaks to the nature of reality and apperception per se.

What the UFO represents is an absurdity that may be soluble by reason- which proposition seems on the face of it to be an apparent contradiction in terms since the absurd (i.e. the irrational) and the rational are mutually exclusive by definition. That is the Jungian perspective and one which I share. So- one might, by this explanation, discover the centrality that Ufology has in the study of Philosophy.

I would further note that Jung and Vallee both eventually came to the position that the phenomena include a nuts and bolts (ETH/UTH) attribute as well as an Archetypal transcendence. That fact illustrates my point that we may be dealing with that rarest of scholarly anomalies- the rational absurd.
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The problem as explained by General Striker in 2010


--On the futility of knowledge

The 'what the fuck was that?' question is the operative general question. Three question follow by logical extension and form the impetus for the entire field of speculation.

1. Where do they come from? 2. How did they get here? and- 3. What do they want?

The entirety of the vast body of Ufer literature is devoted- depending on the relative ambition of the author- to answering one or more of those three questions. It's interesting that those very same queries also form the basis of all Philosophical, Metaphysical and Scientific investigation regarding the nature of existence per se.



Drake's Equation and Fermi's paradox are typical of the concomitant blending of the fields. Both beg the largest of questions and demonstrate the futility of scientific method regarding a cohesive theory- the answer to the questions they pose. And why? Because both are based in presuppositions that are themselves unproven. It's the nature of presuppositions to be assumptions derived from anecdotal data. That's actually the contradiction that lies at the heart of all Ontological hypothesis and it necessarily substitutes 'belief' for 'proof' as the foundation of Theory. Such is the nature of human endeavor to provide a proof of any existents beyond the brackets of Logic and is the reason that rationalists insist that logic does not apply to the 'real world' except by the (tenuous) extrapolation of analogy.



So this is the Epistemological dilemma in a nutshell: Every speculation concerning existence is ultimately founded in nothing more 'proven' than a leap of faith. Why should the study of Ufology escape conformity to this universal conundrum?



Does all of this mean that, despite the contradictions and the futility, that the questions ought not be even asked in the first place? Certainly there are those who would say precisely that- that adherence to rational skepticism precludes flights of imaginative speculation. I'm not among them for one simple reason- a simple choice, really- a choice to be curious about the mind of God.

As defined by Jules Lopoff

A lot of ufers are giving up. I understand their frustration with the

direction the field seems to have taken. The fringe apparently has become

mainstream in the view of many folks invested in the study just as James

Carrion has concluded. But to discard a half century of witness

testimony seems self defeating. The problem with Ufology has always

been the lack of physical evidence in support of eyewitness accounts. In

order to create a coherent theory the existence of artifacts would seem to

be essential. Lacking that, the field is wide open to fantasy, hoax and

speculation. But based upon the vast body of eye witness accounts alone,

many by well qualified and objective observers, it's ridiculous to conclude

that we're not dealing with a real and profound phenomenon. It seems to

me that the field hasn't really advanced beyond the original research of

the father of the all, Don Keyhoe, in the 1950s and 60s. Credible

researchers like Rich Dolan have simply continued Don's method of

aggregating and classifying sightings. But that's never been enough for

those whose curiosity has been piqued by the possibility of extraterrestrial

discovery and contact with earth- be it UTH, ETH or something else as yet

unimagined. It's said that nature abhors a vacuum. The vacuum of

Ufology has proven to be no exception to that rule.


Keep your faith and keep your eyes on the skies, brother. This exquisite

wonder is too valuable and important to toss overboard.


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Re: UFOLOGY 101

Post by Egg » Wed Apr 06, 2011 4:46 pm

Ayn Rand was an alien.


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Re: UFOLOGY 101

Post by Ozfactor » Wed Apr 06, 2011 6:40 pm

What exactly is your point here? That the study of this phenomenon belongs to the philosophers?
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Re: UFOLOGY 101

Post by lkwalker » Wed Apr 06, 2011 6:43 pm

Not at all. Philosophy belongs to the People.
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