Gibson Guitar Co Doomed

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Re: Gibson Guitar Co Doomed

Post by IndicusMaximus » Fri Aug 26, 2011 11:03 pm

Oh it was an accident. I had leaned it temporarily on something at a show and it fell down. The drummer had brought it from the practice space without its case straight to the show.

Still my fault for leaning it on something stupid.
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Re: Gibson Guitar Co Doomed

Post by Mungodave » Sat Aug 27, 2011 12:24 am

Can someone post the main body of this article?

I cant open the page as my net is playing up.

Ta.

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Post by TraumaT » Sat Aug 27, 2011 12:32 am

Guitar Frets: Environmental Enforcement Leaves Musicians in Fear

Federal agents swooped in on Gibson Guitar Wednesday, raiding factories and offices in Memphis and Nashville, seizing several pallets of wood, electronic files and guitars. The Feds are keeping mum, but in a statement yesterday Gibson's chairman and CEO, Henry Juszkiewicz, defended his company's manufacturing policies, accusing the Justice Department of bullying the company. "The wood the government seized Wednesday is from a Forest Stewardship Council certified supplier," he said, suggesting the Feds are using the aggressive enforcement of overly broad laws to make the company cry uncle.

It isn't the first time that agents of the Fish and Wildlife Service have come knocking at the storied maker of such iconic instruments as the Les Paul electric guitar, the J-160E acoustic-electric John Lennon played, and essential jazz-boxes such as Charlie Christian's ES-150. In 2009 the Feds seized several guitars and pallets of wood from a Gibson factory, and both sides have been wrangling over the goods in a case with the delightful name "United States of America v. Ebony Wood in Various Forms."

The question in the first raid seemed to be whether Gibson had been buying illegally harvested hardwoods from protected forests, such as the Madagascar ebony that makes for such lovely fretboards. And if Gibson did knowingly import illegally harvested ebony from Madagascar, that wouldn't be a negligible offense. Peter Lowry, ebony and rosewood expert at the Missouri Botanical Garden, calls the Madagascar wood trade the "equivalent of Africa's blood diamonds." But with the new raid, the government seems to be questioning whether some wood sourced from India met every regulatory jot and tittle.

It isn't just Gibson that is sweating. Musicians who play vintage guitars and other instruments made of environmentally protected materials are worried the authorities may be coming for them next.

If you are the lucky owner of a 1920s Martin guitar, it may well be made, in part, of Brazilian rosewood. Cross an international border with an instrument made of that now-restricted wood, and you better have correct and complete documentation proving the age of the instrument. Otherwise, you could lose it to a zealous customs agent—not to mention face fines and prosecution.

John Thomas, a law professor at Quinnipiac University and a blues and ragtime guitarist, says "there's a lot of anxiety, and it's well justified." Once upon a time, he would have taken one of his vintage guitars on his travels. Now, "I don't go out of the country with a wooden guitar."

The tangled intersection of international laws is enforced through a thicket of paperwork. Recent revisions to 1900's Lacey Act require that anyone crossing the U.S. border declare every bit of flora or fauna being brought into the country. One is under "strict liability" to fill out the paperwork—and without any mistakes.

It's not enough to know that the body of your old guitar is made of spruce and maple: What's the bridge made of? If it's ebony, do you have the paperwork to show when and where that wood was harvested and when and where it was made into a bridge? Is the nut holding the strings at the guitar's headstock bone, or could it be ivory? "Even if you have no knowledge—despite Herculean efforts to obtain it—that some piece of your guitar, no matter how small, was obtained illegally, you lose your guitar forever," Prof. Thomas has written. "Oh, and you'll be fined $250 for that false (or missing) information in your Lacey Act Import Declaration."

Consider the recent experience of Pascal Vieillard, whose Atlanta-area company, A-440 Pianos, imported several antique Bösendorfers. Mr. Vieillard asked officials at the Convention on International Trade in Endangered Species how to fill out the correct paperwork—which simply encouraged them to alert U.S. Customs to give his shipment added scrutiny.

There was never any question that the instruments were old enough to have grandfathered ivory keys. But Mr. Vieillard didn't have his paperwork straight when two-dozen federal agents came calling.

Facing criminal charges that might have put him in prison for years, Mr. Vieillard pleaded guilty to a misdemeanor count of violating the Lacey Act, and was handed a $17,500 fine and three years probation.

Given the risks, why don't musicians just settle for the safety of carbon fiber? Some do—when concert pianist Jeffrey Sharkey moved to England two decades ago, he had Steinway replace the ivories on his piano with plastic.

Still, musicians cling to the old materials. Last year, Dick Boak, director of artist relations for C.F. Martin & Co., complained to Mother Nature News about the difficulty of getting elite guitarists to switch to instruments made from sustainable materials. "Surprisingly, musicians, who represent some of the most savvy, ecologically minded people around, are resistant to anything about changing the tone of their guitars," he said.

You could mark that up to hypocrisy—artsy do-gooders only too eager to tell others what kind of light bulbs they have to buy won't make sacrifices when it comes to their own passions. Then again, maybe it isn't hypocrisy to recognize that art makes claims significant enough to compete with environmentalists' agendas.
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Re: Gibson Guitar Co Doomed

Post by Escape_Artist » Sat Aug 27, 2011 12:38 am

Pam wrote:Holy crap, we have two Les Pauls in our house and a Gibson ES (something or other)...... I better hide those suckers.

Who'd a thunk that musical instruments could be bad

I can store them for you if you like.
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Re: Gibson Guitar Co Doomed

Post by Pigeon » Sat Aug 27, 2011 1:15 am

With all the trouble with pollution and such here, it is good to know is watching out for other countries first.

Illegal people crossing our borders vs a piece of wood. Wood that would probably be burnt by people clearing land.

Maybe Gibson refused to sell out to some take over company and this is the punishment.

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Re: Gibson Guitar Co Doomed

Post by TraumaT » Sat Aug 27, 2011 1:20 am

Pigeon wrote:With all the trouble with pollution and such here, it is good to know is watching out for other countries first.
The planet is one big ecosystem. You can't really think "countries" or "states" when trying to protect that ecosystem.

Just saying.

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Re: Gibson Guitar Co Doomed

Post by Pigeon » Sat Aug 27, 2011 1:38 am

To bad dumping 100s of thousands of barrels of oil in the ocean doesn't get the law 'agin ya'.

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Re: Gibson Guitar Co Doomed

Post by TraumaT » Sat Aug 27, 2011 1:46 am

Pigeon wrote:To bad dumping 100s of thousands of barrels of oil in the ocean doesn't get the law 'agin ya'.
That doesn't mean that everyone should just give up, stop giving a fuck about the planet and just sit down and wait for the ecosystem to finally collapse completely. Support those who do the right thing, at least.

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Re: Gibson Guitar Co Doomed

Post by Pigeon » Sat Aug 27, 2011 1:49 am

Some people have been giving a 'fuck', as you put it, for years - is it getting much better. Crusade on.

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Re: Gibson Guitar Co Doomed

Post by TraumaT » Sat Aug 27, 2011 1:52 am

Pigeon wrote:Crusade on.
Good idea. I will.

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