The Barack and Hillary dance

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The Barack and Hillary dance

Post by lkwalker » Mon Nov 21, 2011 2:45 pm

This from the National Journal. Links are contained within the story. I find myself agreeing with the logic...

Democratic Pollsters: Obama Should Abandon Run for Second Term

President Obama should abandon his run for a second term and turn over the reins of the Democratic Party to Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, two one-time Democratic pollsters wrote in Monday's Wall Street Journal, which appeared online Sunday.

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Patrick H. Caddell and Douglas E. Schoen argued that just as Harry Truman and Lyndon Johnson decided not to pursue additional runs though they could have, Obama should do the same.

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“He should abandon his candidacy for re-election in favor of a clear alternative, one capable not only of saving the Democratic Party, but more important, of governing effectively and in a way that preserves the most important of the president's accomplishments. He should step aside for the one candidate who would become, by acclamation, the nominee of the Democratic Party: Secretary of State Hillary Clinton,”Caddell and Schoen wrote.

Caddell, who worked as a pollster for President Jimmy Carter, and Schoen, who was a pollster for President Bill Clinton, argue that Obama will inevitably have to run a negative campaign in order to win reelection, the negative consequences of which will make it difficult for him to govern effectively.

“One year ago in these pages, we warned that if President Obama continued down his overly partisan road, the nation would be ‘guaranteed two years of political gridlock at a time when we can ill afford it.’ The result has been exactly as we predicted: stalemate in Washington, fights over the debt ceiling, an inability to tackle the debt and deficit, and paralysis exacerbating market turmoil and economic decline,” they write.

Caddell and Schoen say they write as “patriots and Democrats” who are concerned for their country, and they do not expect to play a direct role in any possible Clinton campaign.

This is not the first time Caddell and Schoen have made this argument. They wrote in November 2010 in The Washington Post that they “do not come to this conclusion lightly. But it is clear, we believe, that the president has largely lost the consent of the governed.”

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Re: The Barack and Hillary dance

Post by Egg » Mon Nov 21, 2011 3:13 pm

That's funny, I was just talking to some people about this. She'd be a better choice for the party. I don't know if she'd do any better. She might be better able to get what she wants but I don't know if what she wants is any better.


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Re: The Barack and Hillary dance

Post by Pigeon » Mon Nov 21, 2011 3:15 pm

A lot of average republicans, at least out here, really dislike here. Doubt if it would make much difference to Dems. No sure what the real gain will be, other than someone else running.

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Re: The Barack and Hillary dance

Post by Egg » Mon Nov 21, 2011 3:17 pm

Pigeon wrote:A lot of average republicans, at least out here, really dislike here. Doubt if it would make much difference to Dems. No sure what the real gain will be, other than someone else running.
I think she'd galvanize apathetic dems to vote. The dems would retain the presidency almost for sure.


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Re: The Barack and Hillary dance

Post by TraumaT » Mon Nov 21, 2011 4:25 pm

Pigeon wrote:A lot of average republicans, at least out here, really dislike here.
A badge of honor for her.

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Re: The Barack and Hillary dance

Post by lkwalker » Mon Nov 21, 2011 5:40 pm

I hated her when she was running against Barack because I was committed to the dream of a black president. Been there, done that. Now I like her again. Time for a woman.
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Re: The Barack and Hillary dance

Post by Egg » Mon Nov 21, 2011 5:44 pm

I don't think she'd make better policy decisions. I think they'd be mostly the same. However, she would have done a far better job with health care. She's tougher than Obama.


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Re: The Barack and Hillary dance

Post by lkwalker » Mon Nov 21, 2011 5:55 pm

And a helluva lot brighter.
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Re: The Barack and Hillary dance

Post by Egg » Mon Nov 21, 2011 5:58 pm

I think he's a very bright guy I just don't think he knows how to negotiate worth a damn. I also don't think the guy's a socialist in the least bit.


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Re: The Barack and Hillary dance

Post by lkwalker » Mon Nov 21, 2011 6:00 pm

He's very bright but she is brighter. I'd like him better if he were a socialist.
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