Ron Paul....It's Possible

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Re: Ron Paul....It's Possible

Post by Royal » Tue Dec 20, 2011 10:18 pm

IndicusMaximus wrote:Just stop paying attention to it. Everything on TV is propaganda. If you can't watch it without being relatively unaffected by it, you shouldn't watch it because you obviously don't understand at your very core that it IS propaganda. None of that shit that's on TV is real. None of this shit that supposedly operates our "highly efficient" modern society is real. None of the values hammered into us through years and years of follow the leader and traumatization as our dreams are destroyed in favor of the illusion of survival are real. Okay? This is not an intellectual debate. The truth is concrete, and we're all headed towards a brick wall, and fast. Whether or not you're using the little pedals they provide you in order to feel like you're a real contributor to "society" means nothing, because the momentum alone generated from this suicide ride is already enough to completely obliterate itself against a dead end.

There's no more use in debating about it. It's f++ing over. Good riddance to all of it.

This is why I barely comment on anything anymore.... because it's all f++ing noise to me now.

look at this..... 66 pages of f++ing noise.

Really seriously consider how much of your words and actions are still not your own.... and if you consider yourself enlightened, think again... or stop thinking.... stop talking..... just shut up, because mostly... I just want to punch all of you in the face. Everyone. If I had enough fists, I would punch everyone in the world in the face a good hard thrice in a row, so everyone collectively stumbled backward at once and shut up for a minute.... having to recover from the shock of this abrupt and painful interruption. Maybe then, people would stop making so much f++ing noise. We're the noisiest f++ing animals on the planet. All this noise about absolutely nothing that matters...
I honorably disagree with each sentence. Even the cute "Pedal" one that Pigeon took a liking to. I appreciate your input to this noise though. Stay strong. :D

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Re: Ron Paul....It's Possible

Post by IndicusMaximus » Tue Dec 20, 2011 10:31 pm

Explain why you disagree, Royal.
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Re: Ron Paul....It's Possible

Post by Pigeon » Tue Dec 20, 2011 10:47 pm

I actually think there is more truth then fiction in Indies words. It's almost all propaganda, if a person stops buying it as the real truth.

What we average people want or believe to be right is basically meaningless now.

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Re: Ron Paul....It's Possible

Post by Royal » Tue Dec 20, 2011 10:48 pm

IndicusMaximus wrote:Explain why you disagree, Royal.
I'm not going to argue with every comment you make on the internet. Or be duped into a lengthy "your wrong" internet post.

But :D for starters, your consistent abuse of the words "None" "Everything" "Nothing" to generalize society into your dark point of view. Along with my knowledge of your background, it's easy to write you off to have a biased or chemically imbalanced perspective; which I don't say out of hate, but the honesty residing in my heart- I hope you respect that.

I think you are highly creative, intellectually stimulating, and interesting, but your repetitive and self defeating mantras have me skipping your posts without reading them. It's like the same ol' nirvana song played on radio over and over again. I guess there's an inherent wrongness to it.

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Re: Ron Paul....It's Possible

Post by Mur » Wed Dec 21, 2011 12:38 am

Beware the Coming Bailouts of Europe

Tuesday, December 20, 2011 – by Ron Paul



The economic establishment in this country has come to the conclusion that it is not a matter of "if" the United States must intervene in the bailout of the euro, but simply a question of "when" and "how." Newspaper articles and editorials are full of assertions that the breakup of the euro would result in a worldwide depression, and that economic assistance to Europe is the only way to stave off this calamity. These assertions are yet again more scare-mongering, just as we witnessed during the depths of the 2008 financial crisis. After just a decade of the euro, people have forgotten that Europe functioned for centuries without a common currency.

The real cause of economic depression is loose monetary policy: the creation of money and credit out of thin air and the monetization of government debt by a central bank. This inflationary monetary policy is the cause of every boom and bust, yet it is precisely what political and economic elites both in Europe and the United States are prescribing as a resolution for the present crisis. The drastic next step being discussed is a multi-trillion dollar bailout of Europe by the European Central Bank, aided by the IMF and the Federal Reserve.

The euro was built on an unstable foundation. Its creators attempted to establish a dollar-like currency for Europe, while forgetting that it took nearly two centuries for the dollar to devolve from a defined unit of silver to a completely unbacked fiat currency note. The euro had no such history and from the outset was a purely fiat system, thus it is not surprising to followers of Austrian economics that it barely survived a decade and is now completely collapsing. Europe's economic depression is the result of the euro's very structure, a fiat money system that allowed member governments to spend themselves into oblivion and expect that someone else would pick up the tab.

A bailout of European banks by the European Central Bank and the Federal Reserve will exacerbate the crisis rather than alleviate it. What is needed is for bad debts to be liquidated. Banks that invested in sovereign debt need to take their losses rather than socializing those losses and prolonging the process of adjusting their balance sheets to reflect reality. If this was done, the correction would be painful, but quick, like tearing off a large band-aid, but this is necessary to get back on solid economic footing. Until the correction takes place there can be no recovery. Bailing out profligate European governments will only ensure that no correction will take place.

A multi-trillion dollar European aid package cannot be undertaken by Europe alone, and will require IMF and Federal Reserve involvement. The Federal Reserve already has pumped trillions of dollars into the US economy with nothing to show for it. Just considering Fed involvement in Europe is ludicrous. The US economy is in horrible shape precisely because of too much government debt and too much money creation and the European economy is destined to flounder for the same reasons. We have an unsustainable amount of debt here at home; it is hardly fair to US taxpayers to take on Europe's debt as well. That will only ensure an accelerated erosion of the dollar and a lower standard of living for all Americans.



http://www.thedailybell.com/3379/Ron-Pa ... -of-Europe


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Re: Ron Paul....It's Possible

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Re: Ron Paul....It's Possible

Post by Egg » Wed Dec 21, 2011 1:12 am

This is what I believe,
if Ron Paul becomes President and actually implements what he wants to one of two things will happen:
1. He'll die (as in get offed); or,
2. The whole shebang will go up in flames. Why? Because, he'd be unraveling a completely corrupt banking system, economy and political body. We will get to see exactly how bad things were.

Now, I like the guy, whether I agree with him or not on all matters, but I'm for it just to see this happen. I'd prefer the whole thing be shown to be the fraud that it is but if he's willing to play, I'm willing to let him play.


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Re: Ron Paul....It's Possible

Post by Royal » Wed Dec 21, 2011 1:44 am

Egg wrote:This is what I believe,
if Ron Paul becomes President and actually implements what he wants to one of two things will happen:
1. He'll die (as in get offed); or,
2. The whole shebang will go up in flames. Why? Because, he'd be unraveling a completely corrupt banking system, economy and political body. We will get to see exactly how bad things were.

Now, I like the guy, whether I agree with him or not on all matters, but I'm for it just to see this happen.
We are sooo quantum entangled :mrgreen:

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Re: Ron Paul....It's Possible

Post by IndicusMaximus » Wed Dec 21, 2011 3:09 am

Royal wrote:
IndicusMaximus wrote:Explain why you disagree, Royal.
I'm not going to argue with every comment you make on the internet. Or be duped into a lengthy "your wrong" internet post.

But :D for starters, your consistent abuse of the words "None" "Everything" "Nothing" to generalize society into your dark point of view. Along with my knowledge of your background, it's easy to write you off to have a biased or chemically imbalanced perspective; which I don't say out of hate, but the honesty residing in my heart- I hope you respect that.

I think you are highly creative, intellectually stimulating, and interesting, but your repetitive and self defeating mantras have me skipping your posts without reading them. It's like the same ol' nirvana song played on radio over and over again. I guess there's an inherent wrongness to it.
With your good eye closed.
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Re: Ron Paul....It's Possible

Post by Royal » Wed Dec 21, 2011 3:33 am

IndicusMaximus wrote:
Royal wrote:
IndicusMaximus wrote:Explain why you disagree, Royal.
I'm not going to argue with every comment you make on the internet. Or be duped into a lengthy "your wrong" internet post.

But :D for starters, your consistent abuse of the words "None" "Everything" "Nothing" to generalize society into your dark point of view. Along with my knowledge of your background, it's easy to write you off to have a biased or chemically imbalanced perspective; which I don't say out of hate, but the honesty residing in my heart- I hope you respect that.

I think you are highly creative, intellectually stimulating, and interesting, but your repetitive and self defeating mantras have me skipping your posts without reading them. It's like the same ol' nirvana song played on radio over and over again. I guess there's an inherent wrongness to it.
With your good eye closed.
Yep.

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