What's up with the Church? Is the Eschaton immanent?

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What's up with the Church? Is the Eschaton immanent?

Post by lkwalker » Mon May 16, 2011 12:05 pm

Benedict. Divide and conquer?

What's the meaning of the Popes's recent (October 2009) Apostolic Constitution inviting the Anglican Church (and hence the Episcopalians) to come in from the cold of the Reformation? Is it a gesture of reconciliation or a political tactic to destroy the Church of England? Whatever it is, it's very serious and has profound implications for both The Church and for the most elite order of the Protestant communions. Basically what Benedict has offered is inclusion within Roman Catholicism of any Anglican, including priests, who accept the offer. It has the feel of 'gathering the flocks' for end times' about it. And that it comes from the former head of the Inquisition adds to its profundity. I don't even see any requirement for Confession in order for the strays to become regathered within the fold. Just a simple 'yea or nay' will suffice. Is this a continuation John 23rd's ecumenism or is it something else?

Certainly the Constitution will have the immediate effect of dividing the Episcopal. In recent years the CoE has allowed women and gay priests, taken anti-state political positions, liberalized the liturgy and adopted political correctness as its new creed. The question in my mind is whether inclusion within Roman Catholicism will change nature of The Church or change the Reformation. The Pope is certainly aware of this conundrum and yet has committed himself to making the offer nonetheless- and in no small way- but in the highest possible method- an Apostolic Constitution.

Ecumenical or divisive? Big question. Does Benedict know something we don't know? Is he contemplating the prophecies of St. Malachi? I've wondered about this from the very moment he chose his papal name. The Olivine. Next to last...

Sure. Religion in general is irrelevant. Maybe Benedict is offering an 'olive branch,' or maybe the Olivine has other motivations. I personally feel that the Apostolic Constitution was inspired by the immanence of Catholic Esoteric eschatology having to do with Saint Malachi and Fatima. You are aware, I'm sure, that Benedict was appointed Chief of the Inquisition by John Paul in the early 80's some time. And so to make this offer without the requisite Confession speaks very loudly of a hidden agenda. That's really all I'm saying. But maybe I find greater meaning in RC esoterica than you. Or maybe I dropped too much acid in my day!

So, the question is: is the prophecy correct, is it manifest destiny or is it Benedict's (and the Catholic church's hierarchy) knowledge of the prophecy that is propelling him to these actions?

It can be both. It's the same principle as Christ self-consciously fulfilling the messianic prophesies abroad during the first century. In other words- being conjoined to participate in a preordained passion even to the extent of furthering it (straightening the paths.) This is Benedict's own dilemma. He needs to be both author and actor at the same time. The Olivine must extend the olive branch in order to ordain the preordained. I don't believe this set of circumstances has anything to do with the 'Mayan prophecies' concerning the 2012 hysteria. It's seated deeply in Catholic eschatology and telos. I think what we're watching is ritual- the grand Eucharist- that the Pope regards as existential necessity. Is there truly an arcane meaning to it all? Well- I guess that was my question in bringing up the matter of Benedict's Apostolic Constitution here. To me it's a further piece of a great puzzle being assembled before the eyes of anyone paying attention to it.

It's one of those great historical ironies that the inheritor of the Inquisition should be the Olivine- bearer of forgiveness- at one and the same time. That's an irony not lost on me. History works in surprising and mysterious ways. And regardless of whether the last act of this passion is ordained or contrived it's meaningful to me as a foreshadow of the death of novelty. That's all prophesy is, in truth, a foreshadowing. How can it be that the future casts a shadow on the present doings and goings? Can we conclude other than that all of time is entangled in the most exquisite manor? To confront that is to encounter the Absurd. Revelation is, then, always available. What's the gain of that? That's anyone's question. Maybe it's just a matter of the collision of free electrons in empty space sharing choice thoughts. Is that enough? Possibly not- but it may be all we have. Little plaints in the void...


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Re: What's up with the Church? Is the Eschaton immanent?

Post by lkwalker » Mon May 16, 2011 1:06 pm

UFOs, Demons, VATT and Chernobyl

Why is the Vatican watching the skies? Is there a deeper, eschatological meaning behind the Vatican Advanced Technology Telescope (VATT) in Arizona? Certainly there is. Esoteric doctrine and Revelation informs the Church that humanity is approaching the Fullness of Time- the time of the appearance of Chernobyl (the Russian word for 'Wormwood') the Death Star of Saint John. Such has been prophesied by Saint Malachy to occur in these times. If you're not familiar with Saint Malachy's prophesy here's a link: http://www.catholic-pages.com/grabbag/malachy.asp. As inheritor of the Inquisition these are some of the matters that Benedict has studied carefully. It is no coincidence that the Chernobyl nuclear disaster took place in a city so aptly named. That event and that city are a foreshadowing of end times. And the more recent insult to the earth, Fukushima, carries the world further along the road.

There is a deeply held belief in the US IC that UFOs represent a harbinger of a deceptive regimen by other-worldly demons and fallen angels to further the invasion of our dimension for the purpose of harvesting souls. The invasion will culminate with the release of poisonous cataclysms both man-made and natural- but all influenced and/or caused by the multidimensional invaders. Jacques Vallee referred to these supposed apparitions as 'messengers of deception.' According to Carol Rosin, assistant to Wernher von Braun at Fairchild Industries in the 70s, von Braun warned her that the IC, in league with the alien presence, would present a false flag invasion paradigm to the world in order to unite and enslave humanity under an oppressive New Order. Is it false flag or actual? For both the Church and the Christian reactionaries in the intelligence community (and both the Bush and Reagan administrations) this alien regime is none other than the Anti Christ and the final battle is incipient and inevitable. The only question remaining is the outcome. So all the signs point towards the immanence of the battle of Megiddo. The final sign? The appearance of Chernobyl in the nighttime skies. So, it seems, believes the Pope.

Keep your eyes on the skies and watch your asses...
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Re: What's up with the Church? Is the Eschaton immanent?

Post by Pigeon » Mon May 16, 2011 1:19 pm

Mankind explains and tries to understand things in terms it already believes it understands.

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Post by lkwalker » Mon May 16, 2011 1:26 pm

And yet... Can the great feelings of the Telos be denied? I'm of the opinion that there is much more to creation than meets the eye.
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Post by Pigeon » Mon May 16, 2011 5:16 pm

lkwalker wrote:And yet... Can the great feelings of the Telos be denied? I'm of the opinion that there is much more to creation than meets the eye.
I agree. i just do not like seeing it described and pursued in mankind's typical self centered, controlling attitudes.

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Re: What's up with the Church? Is the Eschaton immanent?

Post by Egg » Mon May 16, 2011 9:37 pm

One of my friends who is all into airy fairy spirituality believes that the end is nigh - but really the end of one paradigm and the beginning of another.

Seems to be a lot of people feel that way. Isn't the 21st of this month supposed to be the day when Christ comes back or something?


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Re: What's up with the Church? Is the Eschaton immanent?

Post by lkwalker » Mon May 16, 2011 9:40 pm

My advice? Don't hold your breath.
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Post by Egg » Mon May 16, 2011 9:41 pm

lkwalker wrote:My advice? Don't hold your breath.
Only when I'm under water.


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Re: What's up with the Church? Is the Eschaton immanent?

Post by Egg » Mon May 16, 2011 9:42 pm

I am making some homemade matzohball soup and humus just in case. "Yeshuah! You're all skin and bones, bubellah!"


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Re: What's up with the Church? Is the Eschaton immanent?

Post by lkwalker » Mon May 16, 2011 9:44 pm

There's theory about that the Eschaton will be faked.
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